Interview with Dr. Carol West

Florida in the Global Economy

By Phillip Lohaus*

Since the 1980s, the term “globalization” has come to mean many things.  From the movement of currencies, people, and ideas across borders, to the high-tech dissemination of popular culture, globalization is one of the mostly intensely championed and decried issues of the past few decades.  Florida is no stranger to the effects of globalization, and the issues involved affect the daily lives of millions of Floridians.  The University of Florida International Review recently sat down with Professor Carol West, a specialist in economic forecasting and former Chair of the Department of Economics (1997-2001), to discuss the state of Florida in the global economy.

 

International Review: Thank you very much for opportunity to speak with you.  First of all, can you tell us a little about your involvement with the Center for International Business Education and Research (CIBER) as well as economic forecasting in the state of Florida?

 

Dr. Carol West: Actually, the two are interrelated. I had some background in things international from other work I’ve done, such as spending a year and half in Colombia after I graduated from college.  The first research I did with a strong international component was with the copper industry, and this came out of developing state forecasting while I was at the University of Arizona.  Copper was a major part of the state economy at that time, so in order to forecast what was happening in the state of Arizona, you had to forecast the copper industry.  When I came to Florida, over time I could see the impact on the tourism industry of changes in foreign exchange rates. International tourism in Florida was specifically affected by the fluctuation of the Canadian dollar, due the large number of Canadian visitors.  I didn’t originally have a large amount of international aspects in forecasting models, but I could see that I had to move in that direction to take account of such factors. 

 

The goal of the CIBER program here at UF is to improve the competitiveness of US firms, and part of that is improving international business education with a strong emphasis on the notion that international business cannot be taught solely by a business school, but must include area studies, languages, and so forth.  It should bring these components into business programs, as well as bring business components into language, political science and area studies.  Building the integrated CIBER program brought together people from across campus, and it has been quite successful.

 

IR:  Various publications, such as Thomas Friedman’s The Lexus and the Olive Tree and Joseph Stiglitz’s Globalization and its Discontents, discuss the pros and cons of an increasingly globalized economy.  In your opinion, is Florida poised to be a winner or a loser in this process?

 

CW: I think that Florida will be much like almost any large-scale economy you look at.  That is, there are going to be winners and losers within the economy here.  The effects are very broad and some of them we have yet to measure.  For example, we tend to think of agriculture, namely the citrus and sugar cane industries, as important in this equation, and it is true that Florida is at risk of losing some of its traditional agriculture.  When you lose some agriculture, you will lose some green spaces to development, whereby some attractiveness of the state may be lost.  What happens in Florida also depends on what happens in other parts of the country, as well.  If other states are impacted negatively by the forces of globalization, that will impact the rate of workforce migration to Florida.  This will impact the rate of growth of the state as well.  At this point, we don’t have the data necessary to show the secondary effects of those flows.

 

IR: In 1960, Florida’s population growth increased 78.7%, but the rate of growth has been declining ever since, with only a 19% growth rate between 1990 and 2000.  Can you identify any reason for this?

 

CW: Those figures really reflect a mathematical phenomenon.  If you look at the absolute increase in the population, it’s actually much larger.  Even if you had just a constant absolute growth over time, you keep adding to a larger base which keeps growing even as the percentage is declining.  We have a very large number of people coming into the state now, even though the growth rate was higher in the middle part of the century, because the state then was much smaller.  If you look at the number of people coming in each day, it is quite large. 

 

People also leave Florida, so the number you have exiting the state increases as well, even as the absolute population grows.  As far as any brain drain, certainly the state’s universities have worked very hard and successfully through scholarships and other considerable incentives to keep bright young people in the state.  You can look at the high numbers of high number of National Merit and National Achievement Scholars at UF to see evidence of this.

 

IR: Are trends in GDP growth, Foreign Direct Investment (FDI), and income equality similar in Florida to the trends in the nation as a whole?

 

CW: I’m not sure as far as the trends in inequality, as the income gap is significant in Florida, even within counties.  We have some very, very rich people and some very poor rural areas.  I would be surprised if a study didn’t show increasing inequality across the state.  Therefore, there are effectively winners and losers in the equation and there is likewise increasing domestic and international focus on the plight of the losers.  If the world, the state, and the nation are going to benefit from globalization, they’re going to have to listen to the voices of those who haven’t been on the winning side. 

 

I do not have real current figures on FDI, but Florida certainly is an attractive area for FDI from Latin American corporations, such as investment in the orange industry coming from Brazilian orange industry.  A Brazilian airplane firm also has offices in Florida.  The total volume today compared with, say, five years ago, I cannot say.  However, anecdotally you can say that there has been an increase in FDI.  There are many firms interested in real estate development, hotel development, and tourism.

 

IR: What roles do migrant workers, and agriculture as a whole, play in Florida’s economy?

 

CW: Well, agriculture is not the engine of growth in Florida at this point in time, because there are other sectors that have grown substantially in importance.  You can think of retirees as a sector, real estate as a sector, tourism as a sector, and so forth.  These have been much stronger in growth over time than has agriculture.  While still an important industry within the state, much of the valuable agriculture comes from urban counties, such as Palm Beach County.  People tend not to think of this county as agriculturally productive, but it produces a large amount of sugar cane.  Florida differs in this way from many states. 

 

When you think of the migration of workers, it is not just the farm workers at issue here.  It is also important to consider the positive effects of foreign students on the vibrancy of research and academics at institutions state-wide.  The effects of the influx of Indian employees in the software industry, for example, have been significant.  They have been a valuable source of skilled labor.  One of the projects that CIBER is funding right now is looking at the potential impact of Department of Homeland Security regulations on the supply of agricultural labor to the state.  We do rely on having farm workers from other countries coming in to harvest crops in the state of Florida.

 

IR: In terms of comparative advantage, what should be the focus of industry in Florida?

 

CW: Certainly Florida will continue to be attractive as a sight for retirees, “snowbirds,” and tourists.  As long as we have beaches and sunshine, those will always be significant industries for the Florida economy.  I think Florida ought to be able to be a strong force in the biomedical and technology industries simply because it is such an attractive place to live.  Scientists and researchers have a choice of where to live; therefore the state should be able to attract more entrepreneurial endeavors in the scientific field.  Gainesville itself has a very strong grouping in the environmental sciences area, which is an increasingly international field simply because the demand for enhanced environmental protection is coming from other countries as their incomes grow and their economies develop. 

 

Additionally, an amazing number of multinational corporations’ Latin American headquarters are located in southeast Florida, including hundreds of banks and major firms in the Miami area.  Miami is, in many respects, the gateway to the Latin American region.

 

IR: How much did the hurricanes of the 2004 season affect Florida’s economy and ability to compete globally?

 

CW: I don’t think that the hurricanes have had a major impact.  Basically, people tend to rebuild an area and forget.  People also generally expect hurricanes in Florida, even though we had more last year than we have typically had.  Even before Hurricane Andrew, hurricanes were not totally unexpected in the area.  What is important for Florida is to work on hurricane preparedness for schools, businesses, and so on.  Hurricanes differ from other natural disasters in that people get reasonably fair warning to move away from impacted areas.  There is certainly some short-term impact on businesses that close down, but the time period is not necessarily long enough to hamper Florida’s economy in global competition.

 

IR: To take a political angle, what current international events have affected Florida’s economy?

 

CW: I think the one particular event that had the possibility of the most influence was the potential of the Free Trade Area of the Americas (FTAA) headquarters being located in Florida.  There was the hope of the state becoming the Belgium, for example, of the Americas, linking economies across the hemisphere.  There was certainly a lot of disappointment when those trade talks stalled.

 

IR: Thank you, again, for your time and expertise on these issues.

 

CW: You’re welcome.

 

 

 

Professor West has taught undergraduate courses in microeconomic theory and forecasting and currently teaches undergraduate and MBA classes in international business. As Forecasting Program Director in UF's Bureau of Economic and Business Research from 1984-2002, her analyses of the Florida economy were widely disseminated in the business media. She is currently Director of UF's Center for International Business Education and Research (CIBER).

 

*Interview transcribed by Matt Marchant.

 

 

 

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